Mike, If You Really Want to Make a Legitimate Run - Embrace 911 Truth!

Millions in the Truth Movement would support you.

Let's face it.  The events of 9/11 are used to justify many of the crimes being perpetrated by the Bush/Cheney regime.  However, the official conspiracy theory of what happened that day (that 19 Muslims with box cutters and directed by a cave dweller) does not hold up to scrutiny.  The evidence that these events were orchestrated by elements within the US government is OVERWHELMING. 

Mike, I like what you stand for.  Take the plunge for Truth.  Demand a 911 Re-Investigation!  It is sure to provide you with an interesting campaign run.  And it would actually give you chance to win - by truly distinguishing you as a man of courage who demands Truth for the people.  More importantly, it is the right thing to do.

Patriots who Question 911:http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Very Good 911 Research Site: http://stj911.org/

Good Luck. Give me shout, if you want to take advantage of this powerful force.

Ted Guertin Ted.guertin@comcast.net

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9/11=PNAC Plot, and Cheney was in CHARGE !!

I have over 900 links by story title now;

http://erroneousbusczh.homestead.com/9-11Plot.html

with photos and petitions enough to sink the Titanic,.....ooops someone already did that, then the dub and his gang of war criminals MUST be next !!

Go Git'em Big Mike !!

p.s. Big Mike is featured at the TOP of this page with many of his videos.

 

Peace Out,
Radical Priest,
Reverend Michael Valentine Goldsun

the word is out on the 9/11 blogs

check out 911blogger - that should help immensely. they are encouraging people to make monetary donations and say why!

 so i just did, and this is why: support for 9/11 reinvestigation.

Support the U.S. Social Forum resolutions submitted to every member of congress!

Gravel Supports Independent 9/11 Inquiry

Here's today's news; and while I've had my concerns about injecting this issue into Mr. Gravel's bid for the white house, I'm extremely pleased to have read this and to pass it along. Gravel exceeds my expectations everyday. Mike, you go!

Gravel Supports Independent 9/11 Inquiry

Thanks to everybody committed to the 9/11 truth movement who have forwarded us films and literature concerning 9/11. We have taken considerable amount of time to look into this issue, there is a lot of evidence to sift through. After careful consideration and much study, Senator Gravel agrees that an independent inquiry is indeed needed to get to the bottom of what happened on September 11, 2001.

Gravel 08


innocence of the creature is in inverse proportion to the immorality of the Master. —Thomas Pynchon

If the people had a vote...

One of the motivating factors in the decision to support a new inquiry into 9/11 was the tremendous amount of people calling for an investigation. If the American people could vote as to whether or not a new investigation should indeed take place, it is the Senator's opinion that it would pass overwhelmingly.

Gravel 08

Digg this Mike Gravel video about a 9/11 investigation.

A video of former Senator Mike Gravel meeting with the student scholars for 9/11 truth has been posted on YouTube. If you have a Digg id, you can Digg it here.

DON

Only democracy will save us!

Libby a Long-Time Agent

From your Madsen link, Kate.

From your Madsen link, Kate.
Libby arranged for Rich's eleventh hour pardon by outgoing President Bill Clinton in January 2001. The pardon of Rich was urged in a phone call to Clinton by then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, as well as Shimon Peres and Ehud Olmert.



I never can tell how much of Wayne Madsen to take seriously. I'm sure there is a lot of truth there and a lot smoke as well. I always wondered who paid how much to get the Clinton pardon for Marc Rich.

God all these people stink, don't they.

Clinton sold out so successfully and reliably that they put his wife in the senate from NY to continue to milk the connection. And she pandered so well to them that they are now running her for President. See Saul Landau's take on her ridiculous position on Iraq.

300,000,000 Americans and we get the same old retreads over and over. Bushes, Clintons, Dodds, Kennedys. Gluttons for punishment we are.

Hillary tried to head off the comparison with Paris Hilton at the last debate, but there are striking similarities at the bottom of their respective celebrity.

A very public act of oral sex gave them each the notoriety they "enjoy" today.

In 1983, the then-U.S.

In 1983, the then-U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York urged jail time for Rich and his partner Pincus Green for racketeering. The name of that U.S. Attorney is Rudolph Giuliani. Giuliani, who is now running for president, praised Bush's decision to commute Libby's jail sentence. After Clinton 's pardon of Rich, Giuliani said he was "shocked." Paul Klebnikov, the Moscow editor for Forbes' Russian edition, wrote about the connections of Rich to Russian gangsters like Boris Berezovsky, a business partner of Neil Bush, in his book "Godfather of the Kremlin." Klebnikov was shot to death gangland-style on a Moscow street on July 9, 2004.

So what do you make of this in that article? sounds like competing racketeers

Frank Rich confirms Madsen's assertion on Libby-Clinton

Frank Rich :

The timing of the president's Libby intervention was a surprise. Many assumed he would mimic the sleazy 11th-hour examples of most recent vintage: his father's pardon of six Iran-contra defendants who might have dragged him into that scandal, and Bill Clinton's pardon of the tax fugitive Marc Rich, the former husband of a major campaign contributor and the former client of none other than the ubiquitous Mr. Libby.

let's just get him to the primaries

"Anyone who has bothered to look at the evidence knows that the Bush/Cheney Administration orchestrated 9/11 as a pretext for sequential military conquests to seize control of the world's major remaining fossil fuel supplies in preparation for the peak of global petroleum production."

But the writer does not (and cannot) present direct evidence that backs up this claim.

The best that can be said is that the event happened and the current maladministration took advantage of it over time.

I am pleased that Senator Gravel is supportive of a new and full investigation. If there are crimes here yet to be exposed, I suspect that his administration will get to the bottom of them.

Meanwhile, let's just get him to the primaries.

 

 

absolutely

let's get him to the primaries, and the best way to garner major support is if he encorporates reinvestigation into his platform.

spread the word!

I think that the most

I think that the most important thing one can do is have a solution to this problem before you confront the problem.  Although if you have hard evidence about what was conspired on that day tactically you have to know what you are going to do about it before you admit to it.  So we need to make sure we have something like the NI4D in place before we thinking about investigation so that we will make sure that those involve are punished to the full extent of the law.  Seriously what would our congress do now when we cant even as democrats stop a warfunding bill?

We need to get Mike Gravel in as president, get the NI4D into law and then the people should bring up those responcible after a new investigation on 9/11 and convict those guilty of treason.  Handled correctly and with proper tactics justice can be served in due time.

Gravel Supports Independent 9/11 Inquiry

Thanks to everybody committed to the 9/11 truth movement who have forwarded us films and literature concerning 9/11. We have taken considerable amount of time to look into this issue, there is a lot of evidence to sift through. After careful consideration and much study, Senator Gravel agrees that an independent inquiry is indeed needed to get to the bottom of what happened on September 11, 2001.

UPDATE: This interview was filmed after the New Hampshire debate June 3, 2007.

Gravel 08

Gravel Supports Inquiry

Thank you alex for this ray of hope.

a deeply spiritual and weighty move.

Perhaps consulting with Dr. David Ray Griffin and Kevin Ryan (see KR's letter to

President Cordova of Purdue U on their recent animation on WTC)

God bless America

embrace 911 truth

absolutely. almost 10,000 people just gathered in Atlanta to create those resolutions everybody is talking about for an international reinvestigation and for impeachment which will be sent to every member of congress. get behind this stuff. that was just 10,000 people at one convention - there's been tons of these over the past few years and growing! imagine the money and support Gravel would garner if he became THE TRUTH & JUSTICE CANDIDATE~ HE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE.. and he knows it. the media would have to open up to this, even if they are run by people afraid to face the truth...that maybe it wasn't the muslims who did this after all...

AS FAR AS I AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS ARE CONCERNED, unless a presidential candidate comes out for reinvestigation of this most heinous crime of manipulation, murder,  betrayal and treason, he/she is not a candidate worth supporting.

The Tipping Point? Not Yet.

Boy, this is a tough one, and it highlights a tragic political reality... As an active member of the 9/11 Truth Movement who has spent nearly two years of research into the events of 9/11, I believe that by simply accepting the unchallenged view that we are all living in a "post 9/11 world", then de facto there cannot be an issue of greater importance than discovering what actually occurred in our country on that day.

That being said, as a supporter of Mr. Gravel's bid for the presidency, I can well image the frenzy of character assassination that would doubtless follow were Mr. Gravel to raise this issue directly. I accept it as a political reality in the debased culture of our corporate-controlled media, that Mr. Gravel would become the victim of a swift and ferocious assault on his "soundness of mind", and his candidacy marginalized beyond recovery. So what to do?

I take it on faith from Mr. Gravel's personal history and his stated positions on many matters of immediate urgency, that he is more than likely sympathetic, if not quietly committed, to uncovering the truth and seeking accountability regarding what was certainly a treasonous complicity within our government for the attacks of 9/11.

Therefore, I would urge other members of the 9/11 Truth Movement and other concerned and questioning citizens to encourage Mr. Gravel to meet with members of patriotsquestion911.com and pilotsfor911truth.org as well as ae911truth.org in order to review and discuss the evidence, and ask for recommendations as to how the issue of 9/11 might reasonably and effectively be introduced into the 2008 campaign... and when.

Mr. Gravel cannot and should not be expected to single-handedly assert the questioning of a media-endorsed 9/11 Commission Report, regardless of what many Americans suspect and what the 9/11 Truth Movement is committed to investigating. Let Mr. Gravel speak with the best experts of record on the issue; let them provide their best judgment about 9/11 as it relates to his campaign.

I must agree with many sentiments expressed here that the time is not propitious for Mr. Gravel to take this issue upon himself and his candidacy to champion. Consider the forces and personnel that gave us 9/11 to begin with! Consider what they are capable of in the context of a presidential campaign that is still trying to breakthrough the massive media barriers erected against it...

Let us support Mr. Gravel's candidacy, let us fight for his nomination. The tipping-point for 9/11 truth to take its central place in reversing the horrors we now contend with around the globe is simply not yet reached. I personally have faith that if 9/11 truth hasn't gained a level of credulity on its own, at the citizen level, to become an acceptable issue for serious discussion in the campaign, then Mr. Gravel will hurt his cause and our own to introduce it. I wish it were otherwise. I hope that Mr. Gravel's success will compel it to be otherwise.

Let us win the battle for the white house and we will win the war that's being waged against us. If my analysis is wrong, please tell me how so; I would like nothing better than to see justice and truth prevail. And sooner than later.

The innocence of the creature is in inverse proportion to the immorality of the Master. —Thomas Pynchon

Lets Get Him Elected First !, then break out the tar & feathers!

     I have been studing 9/11 for the past six years. There is no question treason was involved in the events of that day. But I think it is much more important to get an honest man into the Presidency. After he has the power to force an investigation into 9/11, that is when that issue should be addressed. If 9/11 becomes the issue first, we will loose potential votes in my opinion.

...same thoughts

I agree. Let's start with the issues we can easily agree on (an end to the war in Iraq), before moving on to the next issue. As each new issue is addressed, we grow more in accord so the next gets easier etc. 

 9/11 is not going anywhere, so haste is perhaps a lesser consideration than the success of an honourable politician at this stage. The truth will come if the right people in the right positions are honest and seek it - we just have to get them to those positions.

Namaste,

Tina Louise

www.armsagainstwar.info

ditto.

ditto.

....NO theory - just questions

I agree that it would be great if a politician would take the questions posed by so many around the world (here in Europe also) regarding the government account of 9/11 - and address them frankly. I also believe that the 9/11 Truth Movement (the hardest working researchers I encounter on the internet) would be more accessible to politicians, media and the doubters if all they did was pose questions....it is really all that needs to be done.

To question the obviously flawed official account of events is sane and cannot be mocked. Only when we introduce theories can they mock. I of course have theories, we can't help it - theories are born of unanswered questions - but first I need some honest answers before I can form them into something I can truly trust. But, we don't have enough information and that is why we should only ask questions. Then maybe the media could join the majority and ask with us.

Namaste,

Tina Louise

www.armsagainstwar.info

Mr. Gravel has mentioned in

Mr. Gravel has mentioned in the interviews about pushing for a more transparent government, don't you think that is exactly what the whole 9/11 Truth Movement is all about?

 

"Take the plunge for Truth."

"Take the plunge for Truth."

I believe Mike has already took the plunge for truth long before the 9/11 Truth Movement did.

 

"Demand a 911 Re-Investigation!"

According to the theories by the 9/11 truthers, the government is probably behind this tragic event. If so, how could you demand a 9/11 Re-Investigation from the government? It's like asking a murderer to investigate himself.


"Millions in the Truth Movement would support you."

Millions in the Truth Movement SHOULD support Mike Gravel, if they want to find out the truth behind 9/11.

...Q&A

I agree the 9/11 Truth Movement is seeking honest and transparent government and that is what we are all hoping for. I do believe 9/11 needs to be questioned and debated openly but the 'label' of 'conspiracy theorist' is one we need to shake in order to help our politicians and media who do want to talk about it - to be able to without ridicule. We need this to be a serious issue and for that to happen we need to get answers before we create theories 

 Just getting the right questions out will be enough to open the subject to those that are locked to it.

Namaste,

Tina Louise

www.armsagainstwar.info

9/11 False Flag Terrorism

I want to add my voice to those of others who are asking Senator Gravel to add his voice as a presidential candidate to the 9/11 truth movement. Anyone who has bothered to look at the evidence knows that the Bush/Cheney Administration orchestrated 9/11 as a pretext for sequential military conquests to seize control of the world's major remaining fossil fuel supplies in preparation for the peak of global petroleum production. The big lie of 9/11 has been used as a false justification for much greater atrocities and for the march toward fascism within the United States.

Unfortunately, there are two kinds of disinformation about 9/11, and we need to be clear about that. There is the disinformation of the "official story" perpetrated by corrupt politicians and the corporate media. However, there is also disinformation that is designed to discredit the 9/11 truth movement by associating it with hoaxes, absurdities, and political extremism. The disinformation film Loose Change in particular has been promoted by the mass media to discredit the 9/11 truth movement, as has the publication "American Free Press," which promotes and is published at the same address as the Holocaust denial publication "Barnes Review." The "no planes" and "pod planes" stories, among others, are just hoaxes designed to distract from the real evidence of government complicity.

Be careful about your facts and the sources that you use. The website www.oilempire.us is a good resource to start with to separate the wheat from the chaff, the best evidence from the disinformation. It is also an excellent resource for understanding the connection between environmental policy, peak oil, 9/11, Iraq and other issues. Here are some other serious resources I recommend with respect to 9/11: www.911review.com (not org), www.cooperativeresearch.org, The 911 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions by David Ray Griffin which effectively demolishes the official story about 9/11, Waking Up From Our Nightmare by Jim Hoffman and Don Paul (dealing with controlled demolition), Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert (which goes into more depth about the relationships between the real suspects and the true motives behind 9/11), The War on Truth and The War on Freedom by Nafeez Ahmed, The Terror Timeline by Paul Thompson and the film 9/11: Press for Truth.

William Blum and Michael Parenti are not involved in the 9/11 truth movement, but their books on the history of U.S. military and CIA intervention around the world are very solid works documenting the truth about American foreign policy terrorism. Parenti has written many good books. I particularly recommend Blum's books: Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower and Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II.

As a U.S. Senator during the Vietnam Massacre, Mike Gravel was a man of honor who had the courage of his convictions. I appreciate his willingness to take a principled stand now against the genocide that the U.S. government is committing against the people of Iraq. Yet, I urge Senator Gravel to really hit hard with the facts, with what we know to be true, and "speak truth to power." We know -- absolutely -- that 9/11 was an inside job and that the lie -- the myth -- of 9/11 has been used to fuel political fanaticism in the United States ever since.

Rudolph Giuliani must know the truth about 9/11. He has been a key player in covering up the truth and was probably complicit in the commission of this crime against humanity as well. By his own public admission, he knew beforehand that the World Trade Center towers were going to collapse, when there was no scientific reason or historic precedent for believing that would happen. Yet he is using the big lie of 9/11 to make himself the leading candidate for the Republican Party's presidential nomination in 2008. We need a presidential candidate with the courage and integrity to expose the truth behind this lie.

I am a registered Green Party member and do not plan to vote in a major party primary as this would make me ineligible for a potential Green Party senatorial campaign of my own that I am considering. However, I say more power to Senator Gravel in his bid for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination. If he chose to run as an independent or third party candidate in the general election, he could be an inspirational leader for those of us who are disgusted and disenfranchised by the monumental corruption of the two major parties.

Sincerely,

Gary Swing

 

9/11 TRUTH ? .....all in good time

While you're all waiting breathlessly for full disclosure of 9/11... maybe you should continue to broaden your research of history. 9/11 is just a slice of time in the REAL history of mankind. Seekers of TRUTH are like peelers of Onions, each layer peeled brings more tears to your eyes. Those of us who lived through the 40's 50's & 60's still have not been satisfied with many unanswered questions about pivotal events of those decades. Try reading about what happened to the treasures of China in the 20thCentury>>>>

http://battlingbastardsbataan.com/gw.htm

 

There is a deep ugly continum of dark-history concealed in the silence of insiders..

http://jfkmurdersolved.com/index1.htm

A presidential candidate, or elected executive, cannot try to prematurely illuminate these issues..

..JFK and RFK tried to "go there"... and look what happened to them. Today the threat is just as real as it was then. [Wellstone? & others?]

Governments of all nations are targets for proxy by organized crime.

http://www.ussliberty.org/

 

....and yes, there are even much greater mysteries than these that have been concealed from mankind for a million years.

......all in good time !

This 9/11 issue

I don't think the 9/11 issue is a good one to push for presidential candidates. They will have no power until 2009. Right now it is Congress we should push for a proper 9/11 investigation - which we badly need and deserve.

I agree that presidential positions on this will be taken properly in good time. Please note that Mike Gravel's National Initiative would give us (the people) the power to do something about the 9/11 issue directly. And we can vote for that now. It could happen (once we start getting on board with it) sooner than 2009, or even 2008.

DON

Only democracy will save us!

Hm

You make a really great point. I think I agree with what you say. It will cause a firestorm with those in the guilty party and they will do anything to make him look bad. And I don't think it would be a cowardly approach. Maybe just a smart one.

 Too many people get freaked out by the truth and get their buttons pushed. Maybe a focus on the positive and not the negative is the way to win the day.

911 lost cause!

911 in a nutshell. First it's a lost cause.

1. Israel and the U.S. knew of the attacks. Israel's money runs America, Hollywood, Stock Exchange and that phone company that has monitored all of our calls for 30 years.

2. All the intelligence were in cahouts, FBI, CIA, etc.

3. They waited on 9/11 to add fuel to the fire by demolishing WTC 1,2 and 7.

4. Stocks for the airliners went up.

5. Bush didn't move from the classroom cause what was whispered in his ear was "All is going to plan, Sir!"

6. Guilianni was in on the destruction of the towers evidence.

7. The 911 omission report was fixed.

8. And of course NORAD was in training 180 miles away.

To get the truth you have to open a can of worms, cause oil and the Bush family, the Saudis the Israelis and Bin laden are in bed together.

That's the sad truth.

9-11

 

For anyone politically astute in the way's of the political world, 9-11 is the Roseta Stone of our present delema. Even Kucinich, who is just about the only candidiate pro-active in this subject, know's that "9-11" is off the table to quote Ms.Pelosi. Resolve this first, all the present discssion's are "honey pots" false flag issue's, they serve to keep what Lenin called the "useful idiot's" busy . It's the "Third Rail" of politic's. Get a grip out there .

Please don't try to hijack Mike Gravel's campaign

I'm sure that all the people involved in questioning the events of 9/11 have good intentions, but please. If you are looking for a candidate that will take on your agenda, please try and find someone who's already interested in doing so.

Senator Gravel has a lot of important issues to raise in the 2008 election, and it's important that his voice be heard. Trying to attach your own agenda only shows that you're more interested in your ideas than Mike Gravel's.

I'm sure there is someone out there running for President who feels the way you do, couldn't you associate with him or her instead?

9-11

 

Jayson, you sound like a disinformation agent of one flavor or another. What is the logic of not bringing up this most important issue ? If All Roads lead to Rome, what are your concern's on the 9-11 issue ? Is there some group or Lobby out there that you would rather not see the discussion lead to ? Trying to "highjack" the reality of the political coup that has captured our government? Your effort's are too obvious for anyone with the politcal savvy to let go unanswered.

I agree

I don't think people are trying to "hijack" the campaign but just making suggestions and asking where he stands on a very important issues.  We do need to find out the truth about 9/11 and Gravel would be a perfect person since he doesn't like government secrets.  Of course if he doesn't want to take on the issue and focus on the issues already than that's his decison and I know  I for one will respect that. And it's not fair for someone to go around and claim others aren't supporters of Mike's and just want to "hijack" his campaign.  That's just rude and disrespectful of the supporters like myself.

I wrote to the Gravel Campaign about this.

I wrote to the Gravel campaign a few weeks ago about what his stance is for a new 9/11 investigation. I never received an answer. I think he could get attention on this subject as you suggested.

If Alex is reading this, I would appreciate his getting Mike Gravel's position on a new 9/11 investigation.

DON

Only democracy will save us!

I agree

There are a great number of unanswered questions about September 11, some minor and some gaping holes. I also believe there should be a full and independent investigation.  Senator Gravel wrote in strong support of the Freedom of Information in his book Citizen Power, and I bet he wouldn't support the government hiding behind their cloak of secrecy on this subject.  One way the US people could finally get an honest 9/11 investigation would be to get the National Initiative for Democracy passed, and then have a citizen vote on starting one, because there are a large number of people who have some doubts about the government's official story.

On Gravel's book

do you know if it's still out there?  Have you read it and is it good?  I think Hugo Chavez had a right idea about 9/11 and a panel.  He once suggested there should be an independent investigation with people who would have no ties to anybody in the committee.  I would agree with that and have a world court type of thing.

Citizen Power

After I heard Sen. Gravel's speech at the Democratic Winter Meeting, I said to myself "Who the heck was that guy? That was one of the most intelligent and honest political speeches I've ever heard" so I looked him up and bought a used copy of Citizen Power on Amazon, so I think it's probably out of print but available used. I think it's a well thoughtout agenda for making government more representative of/for/to the people, and I'm a fan, but I imagine back when it came out it had enough radical and populist charm to make the typical moderate Democrat run screaming for the gated communities of suburbia. Hopefully he will write a new edition and add his fair tax and his refinement of the national democracy initiative.

That would be a good idea

Howard Dean had a similar type of book about something dealing with powering the people with the government or something like that.  I can't remember the name of it but I remember it was a big hit with people and I remember seeing it at my local Walden's bookstore and even thought about buying it but never did and I haven't seen it there since 2004.  I think it would be a great idea if he could have a new edition out and talk about other ideas and plans that he has gotten since he wrote the last edition.  I wonder if I could find the book at a place like McKay's.

THE TRUTH ABOUT THE FUNCTION OF THE FBI

ok NOW  :  IF WE ARE GOING TO STYLE OURSELVES AS THE THINKING

then we need to at least endure the bit of thinking every now and again.

The function of the FBI is to keep the people from panic over public events.

That's why the FBI prefers to have their "accused" person DEAD when their

full explanation is revealed to the press.  That tends to put an end to the panic.

So, we can't very well do WITHOUT tis function of the FBI :  abfter all , the majority

of the people are not thinking individuals like ourselves   !

And besides, if we do away with the FBI via the National Initiative,

those agents will just become superlative bank robbers.

You don't want  THAT  , do you  ?

 tannhauser PACOM  ,  tanaiste

FBI

 

 

Pacom is pretty much on the money with the FBI. You have tio think in terms od "State Security Service's" similiar to the SS in Hitler's Germany, Russian KGB and the the new security serivice under Putin, and the Red Chinese under the Chinese Army. They are all similiar in the their function to prevent any threat against the particular power establishment that is in control. They may well all be inter-connnected at a higher level than is appearent on a National level. The subject of the inter-connection of all the intelligence service's is a subject that goes a long way in explaining why the right things to appear to go wrong for no appearent reason. Is there any substantial difference between the Mossad and British MI6 ? You can make this comparision for all the service's , it looks like an International Security Force is in play. Why not ?

FBI

Pacom is pretty much on the money with the FBI. You have tio think in terms od "State Security Service's" similiar to the SS in Hitler's Germany, Russian KGB and the the new security serivice under Putin, and the Red Chinese under the Chinese Army. They are all similiar in the their function to prevent any threat against the particular power establishment that is in control. They may well all be inter-connnected at a higher level than is appearent on a National level. The subject of the inter-connection of all the intelligence service's is a subject that goes a long way in explaining why the right things to appear to go wrong for no appearent reason. Is there any substantial difference between the Mossad and British MI6 ? You can make this comparision for all the service's , it looks like an Internationa Security Force is in play. Why not ?

9/11 is the answer to everything

9/11 is the answer to everything and it's the reason for everything we have going on now.  It's the reason why the Bush people are changing our laws and even breaking them in the name of so-called "national security."  I have no idea what really happened on that day but I know not to believe the official story.  If anything else it's because the Bush people have lied to us so much about everything else why should we believe them?  We only have their word and that is and always has been worthless.  Does anybody know what Mr. Gravel's stance is on 9/11?  He's already out there telling the truth about issues like the military industrial complex which not even Dennis Kucinich talks about so I would love to hear Mr. Gravel's thoughts on this (9/11) too.  And how interesting Rudy Guiliani was in London when the 7/7 bombing happened eh?

9/11

So true SB82.

Google bush crime family

Google loosechange 2.