Pull Out of Iraq This Year

Pull Out of Iraq This Year

 ' Three years ago, public opinion polls indicated that a majority of Americans believed our policymakers were wrong in ordering troops into Iraq. It is widely accepted that this sentiment more than any other factor in the 2006 congressional elections resulted in Democratic majorities in both the House and Senate.

' Are we now going to ignore for another three years the public mandate of 2006 against this costly, preemptive war based on deceit? And how can we justify putting thousands more U.S. troops into Afghanistan? We have already exhausted our treasury. We are also close to exhausting our soldiers.

' Can there be any doubt that the enormous war cost has contributed to the financial crisis here at home? The expense of waging two Middle East wars, plus the loss of revenue caused by the previous administration's tax cuts, have skyrocketed the national debt to a record high. Do we ever consider what the interest alone is on our $10-trillion national debt -- much of it paid to China?

' Frankly, we cannot afford a two-war commitment year after year if we want to balance the federal budget and restore our economy. The huge bonuses that directors of failing corporations have awarded themselves and their chief executives have rightfully angered people, but those figures are peanuts compared with the $12 billion a month we have poured into Iraq and Afghanistan over the last six years.

 

' Of course, the most painful cost of these wars is the deaths of more than 4,200 brave American troops and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians. This is to say nothing of the decline of our political judgment and moral standing in the world.

' The Obama administration recommends we leave 50,000 troops in Iraq to "police" that troubled country through 2011. There may well be flare-ups that will keep them there indefinitely, struggling to police the war-induced chaos.

' In June 1950, President Truman ordered our troops into Korea, stating it would only be a brief police action that did not require a declaration of war. Three years later and after 38,000 American soldiers had been killed, the new American president, Dwight D. Eisenhower, the commander of Allied forces in World War II, promptly ended our involvement in the Korean War, to the relief of our combat soldiers and the American public.

' Unfortunately, Washington left 40,000 American soldiers behind to police the 38th Parallel -- for a brief time. Yet, more than 50 years later, nearly 30,000 American troops are still in South Korea. So much for brief police actions.

 

' My generation has lived through half a dozen wars, beginning with World War II and then Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and several smaller conflicts. The only one of those wars I really believed in and still do was the U.S. participation in World War II, in which I served as a combat bomber pilot against Hitler's Nazi Germany.

' I believe we aging veterans have an obligation to share what we have learned with the American people and with our young president, who seems open to well-meant suggestions.

' In that spirit, I urge President Obama to bring our troops home from the Middle East this year. A good target date for completing an orderly withdrawal from two ill-conceived and costly wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would be Thanksgiving 2009.

' For our sake and God's sake, let's get out of there and begin healing our own bankrupted land.'

A lot of the young folks who supported you, Mike, may not know who George McGovern is. He's about ten years Mike's senior. Served in the senate for one term before Mike and during Mike's two terms, and ran for President and against the Vietnam War in 1972. George McGovern flew a bomber over Europe during WWII, as he points out above. He never mentioned it during his campaign, although he was painted as a weakling by the macho military types who defended the Vietnam war at the time, and who still do. Richard Nixon won, was caught for spying on the Democrats at the Watergate during the campaign, and the war continued until Gerry Ford ended it.

Mike called for an end to the Iraq war within sixty days, later expanded to one hundred twenty, during his campaign for the Democratic nomination last year. The war would have been over for a year and a half now if the senators on the podium with him in Carolina when he made that statement and laid out its means of accomplishment had stepped up to the plate, Obama/Clinton among them.

Notice that now George McGovern has to appeal to people's depression at the Depression and the war's cost to try to end it.

The war was wrong from the very beginning and its gotten worse and worse since. Obama's escalation of the Afghanistan War and his inauguration of the fabulously expensive and arbitrarily cruel and wrong Robot War against innocent Pakistanis both seem to be no problem.

War has always played well to us Americans. It's what we do. Somehow the idea of people dying at the hands of Americans in foreign lands just seems right to us. It certainly isn't repugnant enough to get us actually to do anything to end it. We are a nation of War Criminals. The silent majority, as Richard Nixon used to call us.

Individually of course we're all good guys and gals. We love our dogs and are generally civil to people within our own ethno/economic classes. We just accept the fact that somewhere on earth there are always people who need killing, and its our job to do it. God set us to it. Even if we go broke doing it. It's our duty.

It does not have to be this way. I encourage you all to let Barack Obama know that you're on to him. That he's a murderer and a war criminal just as George XLIII was before him. And that his regime is shaping up as indistinguishable from Bush's, except of course for its advertising campaign. Its branding. Change we can believe in. Change would be to end the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, the war in Pakistan, and the war in Palestine by Thanksgiving.

 

 

Comments

I hope the Haitians get help from Americans.

What has been the historical relationship between Haiti and the USA?

Keep What You Have, But Leave the Rest

First we benefited from their slave labor, a crucial part of the three-cornered trade in sugar, manufactured goods and the slaves themselves. Next we helped the French enforce reparations as punishment for Haiti’s successful slave rebellion.

Reparations? Doesn’t that mean giving black people compensation for having been slaves? Well, no. With threats of re-conquest and economic embargo, the French forced former slaves to pay their former owners the estimated value of what they had lost—the slaves’ own bodies! The amount was 150 million gold francs. Uncle Sam was the collection agency for decades, per the 1823 Monroe Doctrine which prohibited European colonization in the Western Hemisphere. This adds up to $21 billion in today’s inflated dollars with five percent interest, compounded. This money needs to be paid back.

More recently American neo-liberal policies have ruined Haitian agriculture in the name of free trade, by forcing Haiti to lift a tariff that protected their rice growers. This led to subsidized rice from the United States flooding their market. Hence the mass migration of small farmers to Port au Prince, compounding slums and the earthquake’s damage.

Today we still steal Haiti’s labor. Our federal minimum wage is now $7.25. Per hour. Haiti’s minimum wage is now just over three dollars. Per day. But guess who is exempt from the this most minimal of minimum wage? American sweatshop companies in the “export zones.”

Finally, we have robbed Haiti of democracy. We aided two coups against Jean Bertrand Aristide, the first President freely elected in Haiti’s history. Aristide to this day is denied a passport, forbidden to return to his own country. He is an educator and a psychologist, loved by many people. Haiti needs him back, to help rebuild the country.

I hope the Haitians get help from Americans.

They definitely will not get help from the American government, least of all from the US Armed Forces .

The help the Haitians get from the US government and the US Armed Forces will be the same sort of help the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Pakistanis, and Palestinians are receiving. At the hands of Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama/Clinton.

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Times have changed. We are going to empower the American people. Let’s work together. I am tough. I’m not afraid. None of this politics as usual. -- Mike Gravel

 

The rosiest scenario has 50,000 US troops in Iraq indefinitely

 The rosiest scenario has 50,000 US troops in Iraq indefinitely.

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Times have changed. We are going to empower the American people. Let’s work together. I am tough. I’m not afraid. None of this politics as usual. -- Mike Gravel

 

We must get out now

 We need to be out of Iraq this month,

We will, but...

We will get out of Iraq, but we will be heading for Pakistan next, just watch...

Yes

You are right on we will be in Afghanistan and Pakistan and we will be there for years.

Quagmire

     I would argue that we should be there. OK, stop gagging. As the late Benizar Bhutto said, we created this Frankenstein. The ISI was largely created and certainly was made into the world threat it is today by us, by our CIA. If we pack up and leave, the ISI and their clients the Taliban will eventually take over both Afghanistan and Pakistan. The oppression of women and the ethnic cleansing that would result would be catastrophic. Religious fanatics who place greater importance on status in the "afterlife" than life on our planet cannot be allowed to have their hands on nuclear weapons. This applies to all religious fanatics, Islamic, Christian, Jewish, Bhuddist or whatever. We have to back the duly elected civilian government in Pakistan and support them in their struggle to not become a failed state. Bush's corporate puppets that remain in Kabul are another matter. This is a true quagmire, if we leave, there will be a humanitarian disaster and the Islamic religious fanatics that we made so strong will take over Pakistan. If we stay and maintain the same policies, we will simply delay the disaster at the cost of billions of dollars and countless lives of young American soldiers. We may need to stay, but we certainly must completely reevaluate and change our objectives. Obama seems to want to maintain the same misguided American foreign policy so that he concentrates his efforts on "change" at home. He is successful when he deviates most radically from the policies of the past. His downfall will be in areas where he does not deviate from the policies of the past. Foreign policy tops that list...

I disagree

The US regime has funded and backed the military, not the civilians, in Pakistan for years. The US regime is responsible for the murder of Benazir Bhutto, and the government of "Mr 10%" is a sick joke.

The idea that the US regime cares at all about "the oppression of women and the ethnic cleansing" is absurd. The US regime has funded, supported, and apologized for  the ethnic-cleansing of Palestine for over forty years.

The US regime is presently funding Elliot Abrams' (the undead Iran-Contra convict, can you believe it?) Contras reincarnated in Palestine under Abbas as al Fateh in an effort to subvert and destroy the democratic, elected government there.

In Afghanistan and Pakistan the US is behind the war being waged against the civilian populations of both countries under cover of the "war on terror".

The only good thing we can do in Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, or Pakistan is leave, and stop funding Israeli aggression in the case of Palestine. Let the people there sort out their own problems.

The idea that the US regime somehow knows what the people "really" need is the basis of US Imperialism past, present, and future.

I'm surprised you're giving lip-service to this self-serving propaganda.

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Times have changed. We are going to empower the American people. Let’s work together. I am tough. I’m not afraid. None of this politics as usual. -- Mike Gravel

 

obama's downfall is yet to come

 

obama thinks he can sit on both sides of the fence, that his popularity - which, by the way is based on - strangely enough - the popular vote - will maintain corporate interests in the guise of seeing to the needs of the 'popular' voter - he can not be anything but doomed - but again - he will always look better than G W - so he can - 'get away with it?'

 

This little clip http://www.twilightearth.com/2009/05/the-world-according-to-monsanto-full-documentary/ (100 minutes long, if you can sit thru it) shows G W senior in some of his finer moments, meaning, the times when he truly showed what corporate and governmental execs are really about.

 

GMO'S are really a dark horse in the profit race - tho' they threaten to gain rapidly - as yet they are quite distant behind the war machine and medicare and yes  - the old whipping post - the Federal Reserve and international banking  (scuse me while I choke on the International' part of that)

 

For those of you who have not seen this it is well worth watching because it shows how far even a lesser player can go with the right support.

 

It all comes down to money - it's not only the common denominator - it's the only denominator - it's too bad about womens' rights and human rights and babies getting blown up - it's all about money, and when the money's gone it'll be about survival, and that's not me saying that - it's the Bilderburg group - so many suffer so that so few can live in that which is ultimately total depravity.

 

Wish I could post more often - working on 'auxiliary' projects

 

Yeah, troops out of Iraq and sent to Haiti to help

The subject should explain all. Haitians really deserve more help.