by G. Edward Griffin
Would you rather be a Neoconservative or a Progressive? That is a trick
question. The trick is in the fact that, although there may be
differences between the rhetoric and short-term agendas of these
groups, their long-term goals actually are the same. They may differ
over how to fight a war in the Middle East but not over the right of
the President to wage such a war empowered by the UN instead of
Congress. They may differ over what kind of speech should be forbidden
("subversive" speech vs. "hate" speech, for example) but not over the
right of the government to forbid it. They may differ over how fast to
bankrupt the nation to provide benefits for its citizens but not over
the assumption that providing benefits is what governments are supposed
to do. They disagree over tactics, timing, and style, but not
objectives. They fight for dominance within the New World Order, but
they work together to build it. That is because both groups have
embraced the underlying ideology of global collectivism.
The illusion of opposites has been a dominant part of the world's
political landscape for over a century and it has been the primary
reason for the advance of collectivism during that time. In the epic
struggles of World War II, millions of patriotic citizens within the
combatant nations passionately supported their leaders, believing they
were defending against an evil empire. Russians fought for Communism;
Germans fought for Nazism; Italians fought for Fascism. Yet, these were
merely variants of the underlying ideology, called collectivism, that
was common to them all.
Americans, of course, were horrified by such political doctrines and
fought, instead, for Democracy. They did not realize that, while that
word filled their heads with visions of freedom and justice for all,
their leaders had another definition as they quietly converted the
United States into a collectivist regime incredibly similar to the ones
against which they fought. The contest was never about ideology. It was
always about who would be the victor and who would be the vanquished;
who would emerge from the war with world power; who would control the
natural resources; who would create the new boundaries; who would judge
and who would hang.
In our present era, there are few champions for Communism and
practically none for Nazism or Fascism, but everyone claims to be a
champion of Democracy. Neoconservatives and Progressives, alike,
sprinkle their rhetoric with this word like salt on a fresh baked
potato. This is a clue that it has no meaningful definition. It is used
as a political mantra to hypnotize the masses into a receptive state of
mind. After all, anyone who speaks in defense of Democracy has got to
be a good guy, right?
In today's debate, the illusion of opposites has become a myth of
gigantic proportions. On one side - supposedly the Left side - we have
Leftists, Communists, Socialists, Marxists, Neo Marxists, Leninists,
Maoists, Liberals, Progressives, and (in The U.S.) Democrats. On the
other side - supposedly the Right side - we have Rightists, Nazis, Neo
Nazis, Fascists, Conservatives, Neoconservatives, Reactionaries, and
(in the U.S.) Republicans.
Almost all modern political debate is framed by these words; yet, there
is no one who can define what they mean except to their own
satisfaction. There is no universally accepted understanding that will
be accepted by advocates and critics alike. The possible exceptions are
those that bear the names of authors, such as Marx, Lenin, and Mao,
because it could be argued that they represent the views expressed in
their writings. However, we are still left with the formidable task of
accurately summarizing those views to everyone's satisfaction.
Social mores and religious beliefs sometimes divide along the
Left-Right political axis. Those on the Left are more likely to embrace
life styles that those on the Right would consider improper or even
sinful. Those on the Right are more likely to be church-going members
of an organized religion. But these are not definitive values, because
there is a great deal of diversity on both sides. Republicans smoke
pot. Democrats go to church. Social or religious values cannot be
included in any meaningful definition of these groups.
Be that as it may, the degree to which there truly are definable
qualities to these labels is the same degree to which we can understand
that they are similar. For example, if there is any doubt of the
similarity between the collectivism of Marx and the collectivism of
Hitler, all one has to do is read Das Kapital, The Communist Manifesto, and Mein Kampf.
The point is that, when the labels are peeled off and the underlying
ideologies are examined, we come inexorably to the conclusion that
every one of them is built upon the foundation of collectivism. We are
expected to choose sides when, in reality, there is no substantial
difference between them. No matter which side we choose, we are on the
side of collectivism. That is the trick.
What are the elements of collectivism that are common to all of these
seemingly opposite forces? Collectivists on the so-called Left and
Right agree that:
1. Rights are derived from the state;
2. The group is more important than the individual;
3. Coercion is the preferred method to bring about reform;
4. Laws should be applied differently to different classes;
5. Providing benefits (redistributing wealth) is the proper role of government.
These are the core principles held by collectivists in their quest to
remold mankind to their hearts desire. The main disagreement among them
is over how those principles should be applied. They do not realize
that it's not the application of those principles, but the principles
themselves that cause injustice, scarcity, and freedom's demise.
History has already shown this truth in the form of despotism under
Nazism (the so-called Right) and Communism (the so-called Left). It is
sad that intelligent people with knowledge of this history still cling
to the myth that they are opposites when it is so clear they are merely
different manifestations of the same ideology.
Comments
3D Political Compass
Submitted on November 2nd, 2007 by JaywinThe affect on Voter Turnout
Submitted on October 19th, 2007 by ShaperInteresting rant, but I think it boils down to a general consensus that both parties are the same, and that no meaningful change or opposition can occour. This is usually the reason people drop out of the voting system, they feel their vote has no impact. I think many peopel are interested in breaking down these power structures, but most people feel powerless to do so.
I support Mike Gravel in a large part because he is in favor of restoring some of the fundamentals of what democracy was intended to be.
1. Individuals have a say in the process of the government
2. The government exists to serve and represent the wishes of the people
3. There are sound reasons why the constitution was written the way it was and that this integrity needs to be restored to the process.
4. Strength comes from a diversity of viewpoints and the process needs to insure that those voices are given weight
5. Individual freedoms are the foundation of this country and that needs to be restored.
As far as collectivism, I agree with you on many points. I also feel it is the nature of societies to organize into heirarchies, which is a function of our animal nature. The only meaningful counter that can be put into this process is to restore power at the individual level. We have the technological capability if not yet the necessary safeguards to make this possible. In returning to a society where each member has an equal vote, as opposed to a number of votes based on the amount of wealth they possess as individuals, we would be making a great step in the right direction. This would allow the greater tribe to function much more in the manner of a small village. The internet is a manifistation of a trend towards decentralized power, and represents a threat to the collectivism of which you speak. Alternative energies have the potential to do the same thing with the distribution of power.
At this time we are in the midst of an epic struggle between those trying to consolidate and centralize this power and those trying to distribute and decentralize it.
While the necessities of putting aside conflicts between the factions is essential, that movement will be brought together by working to stratify and distribute power. The citizens initiative, the push for the development of alternative energies and individual freedoms and liberties are the cornerstones of an integrated yet independent society that needs to manifest in order to counter the type of collectivism which you are envisioning.
On all of these key points, Mike Gravel stands on the true side of the line. The scenario exists as it stands, the important thing is to align yourself with someone who has thought deeply about the issues, understands the ramifications, and has made the right choices. Important positions that will move us in the necesary direction to dismantle the entrenchments and bring America back into balance.
When people feel they are empowered, or have an alternative to what exists now, they will get out and vote. It is time to get the message across.
RIGHTS FROM THE STATE?
Submitted on October 4th, 2007 by 13harleypost check
Submitted on October 27th, 2007 by arpidoodleCould you please elaborate on your charges
Submitted on September 26th, 2007 by jflI think Joseph that most people here believe that there is not a dime's worth of difference between the Republicrats and Demoblicans, the two marketing profiles of the merged entity your man is delineating above.
And when it comes to principles, no one here would agree with his delineating principles of that entity :
1. Rights are derived from the state;
2. The group is more important than the individual;
3. Coercion is the preferred method to bring about reform;
4. Laws should be applied differently to different classes;
5. Providing benefits (redistributing wealth) is the proper role of government.
Are you trying to cast Mike Gravel as the champion of 1 through 5 above?
If so could you please elaborate on your charges, so that we may understand what you are really talking about?
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Times have changed. We are going to empower the American people. Let’s work together. I am tough. I’m not afraid. None of this politics as usual. Mike Gravelcollectivism or marketing ability?
Submitted on November 15th, 2007 by arpidoodleMarketers and lawyers should both be buried at sea 'cause deep down they're not all bad.
When there is stability in the elements that provide economic security there is not much need for change, but, these elements - outside of the most basic of fundamental needs, can and do change, and with them, socio-politcal concepts and ensuing activity, war included.
Collectivism, like breathing and sleeping, is common to ALL government. How it is used may be new marketing for the same old product, or worse, higher prices for less quality. Have you seen the YouTube vids where latrines are placed over Asian fish farm ponds, - where fish are fed human sewage then pumped with illegal antibiotics to keep 'em alive long enough to filet them - This too is collectivism - just that it's marketed by the G6/7/8 as one of the benefits of Free Trade. Those fish are on shelves all across North America. If you're talking about basics when citing collectivism, don't drop it at the 'marketers' door.
Free Trade, democracy, - the incantation that when intoned (apparently anywhere) provides a magic spell capable of inducing the entranced citizen into a 'buy anything stupor', - is quite harmful. That is where 'collectivism' currently dwells. It has to be delivered to the people via the NI to bypass the marketers and lawyers and brain-dead politicians.